Israel/Gaza conflict and a bit more

How anyone cannot be truly sickened by what is going on in Gaza is incomprehensible to me. Bombing schools, mosques, killing innocent people.

Read this:

They said they were awaiting a response from Israel. Israeli officials in Jerusalem declined immediate comment on the announcement, which came amid diplomatic efforts by the U.S. and other nations to resolve a conflict that has seen 600 people killed in 11 days.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice weclomed the initiative, but cautioned that no agreement would succeed unless it halted Hamas rocket attacks on Israel and arms smuggling into Gaza.

What in the world is the average person going to think upon reading that lovely statement by our Secretary of State? Those BIG BAD HAMAS and their HORRIFIC rockets ramming up into Israel and killing countless poor innocent Israeli civilians? Spin, spin, spin city. Those rockets? Are crude. Of an almost cave-man like status. Meanwhile, Israel enjoys the most modern of weaponry to wipe out innocent Palestinian people-supplied by whom? None other than the US, besides the millions of dollars we give them every year to support their constant attacks on Palestinian people. No, but I'm sorry-it's actually for economoic prosperity. Right.

ISRAEL broke the ceasefire. ISRAEL has killed over 600 Palestinians in the last couple of weeks compared to some 60 Israeli deaths in the past how many years? Eight, maybe? Tell me that's comparable and humane. Tell me that if this was an Arab nation doing what Israel is doing they wouldn't be labeled some salivating low down dirty dog terrorists. No one will do that because these 1.5 million unarmed Palestinian refugees have already been labeled as such by Israeli sympathizers.

I am not saying that Hamas is justified in their countless rocket attacks on Israel but lets keep it fucking real. Those rockets barely cross their borders, sometimes don't even go off, and are basically ineffectual. So as I'm reading all this stupid right and even left wing pro Israel bullshit on the web talking about how no civilised country would endure these attacks for so long without retaliation, I either want to laugh my ass off or cry because of the absurdity. If I imprison and starve you (as Israel does with its sanctions, border control and occupation) and you throw a pebble at my ankle in your anger/frustration, is it okay and just for me to then throw a boulder at you with the express purpose aimed at killing you, your family, and maybe some of your friends and neighbors too? That should be legal right?


Why did Israel ban international media?

http://firedoglake.com/2008/12/30/why-israel-wont-allow-journalists-into-gaza/

Why did Isreal consent to only 8 journalists entering Gaza when their own supreme court ruled for up to 12?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/02/israel-gaza-media-access

Why is France the only one of the Big Four to come up with an initiative for a ceasefire?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ml_israel_palestinians

Why are people so fucking pro Israel? I don't even get it and yeah I'm angry. I don't understand why they are given carte blanche to do whatever they want, whenever they want and where ever they want. You don't want to abide by the UN's picks for the Jenin Inquiry? Hey, that's okay dude. It's all good here. You want to build a fence to keep out Gazaans and you want to steal THEIR farmland to do it? Fuck yeah. Do it. You want to control their airspace, their waters, their borders and everything that comes in between them but you don't want to be responsible for them or criticized by the media for inhumane treatment as they die for lack of food, water and medical supplies? Just another day in paradise, right??

They are beating these people down like 2 dollar hookers. What is worse than beating a 2 dollar hooker? The hooker has ALREADY been beaten down and that's why she's a freaking hooker in the first place. Well, these people are refugees, not hardline terrorists. The majority of their population is and have, for some time, been on UN based refugee status.

And that anyone would even suggest this wasn't planned is another laughable statement. No civilised country would have went forward with such an unprecedented attack without at least some form of unofficial, off the record approval from their allies. People were forseeing this 2 months ago when Israel first violated the ceasefire.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081104191405AAmCs6i

I haven't wanted to talk about this because it seems that even the slightest criticism towards Israel automatically deems you anti Semetic, Mel Freaking Gibson, or even a Nazi sympathizer. Well, I am comfortable in the knowledge that I am none of those things and I will not be quiet for fear of those labels. When a thing becomes the very atrocity it seeks to destroy, every Jewish, Christian, Muslim man, woman, child-HUMAN- should stand up and speak out against it or forever be judged as a party to its continuance.

Western media has been Pro Israel for so long now that the truth is hard to find within the spin. Look at the headlines and the word plays in mainstream media. It behooves everyone to find the truth. When I saw Abu Ghraib and heard about the things going on at Gitmo, I wrote about how the German civilians always said they didn't know about what their government was doing and that I would never say I didn't know what my government was doing. Even if I could do nothing to stop it, I will refuse to wear rose colored glasses because it makes my life easier and livable.

Now, they are reporting that things are reaching almost riotous levels abroad, in the "civilised" countries. But is it any wonder why? It's no less reprehensible, it's not just, but I find it understandable.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK

Statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception.

- Mark Twain


We don't have to believe cheap lies. I don't want to be misunderstood on my position. The Palestinian and Isreali civilians are not to blame in a literal sense. Neither one is more innocent or guilty than the other. It is the extremists in their governments that are causing this conflict. To act as if Israel has no extremists is doing the truth great injustices. Who said that a million Arabs are not worth a single Jewish fingernail? And why did he say it?

To be sorrowful for Palestinian deaths does not take away the sorrow of any Isreali deaths that occur now, or that occurred WW11. But WW11 can not be an excuse to let Israel be forever held unaccountable for their crimes. Especially because of WW11.

I urge you guys to read this, from Rabbi Michael Lerner-

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article5446519.ece

And Robert Fisk, an esteemed British journalist that has been reporting in the Middle East for thirty years-

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/robert-fisk-why-do-they-hate-the-west-so-much-we-will-ask-1230046.html